03:22 <killertofus> the arch package should point to https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/wayback-x11

08:44 <Achill[m]> it might make sense to link to https://repology.org/project/wayback-x11/versions and not always manually edit the pkgnames

14:14 <axtlos> Achill[m]: I thought that wouldn't work since some distros have `wayback` and others `waybac-x11`, but it seems to collect them all under wayback-x11

14:14 <axtlos> feel free to open a MR to add it!

14:15 <dramforever[m]1> repology is magic

14:23 <ConanKudo[m]1> I almost called it wayback-xserver in fedora

14:23 <ConanKudo[m]1> occasionally I think it was a mistake not to do that

14:35 <dramforever[m]1> i almost called it xwayback

15:05 <navi> i don't get why put the `-x11` suffix on wayback tbh

15:05 <navi> it's not like `wayback-wl` exists or will ever

15:07 <Achill[m]> just call it wxayback /j

15:08 <axtlos> navi: some distros already have a wayback package

15:08 <axtlos> in the aur for example its something related to the wayback machine

15:08 <navi> oh

15:09 <navi> i forget other distros don't have categories

15:09 <axtlos> yeah lol

15:09 <axtlos> on gentoo i just named it wayback 🥰

15:09 <navi> i find full reverse domain names too cumbersome and impractical, but no namespacing is prone to that

15:10 <navi> categories are a neat fix

15:10 <navi> solution

15:10 <wink> apologies if this seems like a dumb question (actually 2) - but would this project be helpful for people trying to test apps on X11 and wayland, i.e. starting 2 instances at the same time for comparison, or is it more meant exclusively to only run an X WM? second question would then be how handover from sddm etc would work

15:10 <wink> (kinda avoided digging too deep into this all the time, and I use both wayland and x on different machines, so no real opinion)

15:15 <cow> wink: "but would this project be helpful for people trying to test apps on X11 and wayland" - I mean XWayland is already in a way an X server?

15:16 <cow> So I think XWayland might already do that

15:16 <dramforever[m]1> wink: for first question, Xwayland rootful already exists (try `Xwayland :3` now)

15:16 <dramforever[m]1> so you can just do testing already

15:16 <cow> Xwayland but cute :P

15:16 <dramforever[m]1> for the second question eventually this will just be a drop-in replacement of /usr/bin/X

15:16 <dramforever[m]1> so you just set sddm to start that

15:17 <dramforever[m]1> i don't know how well it currently works

15:17 <wink> cow: dramforever[m]1: maybe I am confused about some wording of "run a full x wm" - as if it was exclusive. and no I have not really looked at xwayland, it was more a theoretical question if you would use a wayland compositor and e.g. awesome or exclusively one

15:17 <wink> like sway on the left screen and awesome on the right" - more as an exercise not because I need it.

15:17 <wink> thus maybe it's even a stupid question :)

15:18 <dramforever[m]1> you can do that without wayback

15:18 <cow> ^

15:18 <cow> You can run X apps under sway wink

15:18 <dramforever[m]1> under X11 with Xephyr, and under Wayland with Xwayland

15:18 <dramforever[m]1> oh, sway on left screen

15:18 <wink> cow: apps yes, but I mean the full WM

15:18 <dramforever[m]1> i think you can just run sway windowed on x or wayland

15:19 <wink> oh, ok. then forget I asked, thanks

15:19 <dramforever[m]1> like, sway in a window

15:19 <wink> I guess I was "this sounds cool" and "do I even need it" at the same time

15:19 <wink> that's maybe where my confusion comes from

15:20 <dramforever[m]1> you can do already do this without wayback

18:06 <killertofus> Achill[m]I agree

21:29 <bigmac> sweet, I just noticed we have a t2 package! Is there any way I could help with the packaging. I do not have an experience with it, but I would like to try. Is there anywhere we would like to be, but are currently not?