#commonlisp on 2025-06-22 — irc logs at libera.catirclogs.org

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15:43 <Guest18> Hi, is there an accepted best tool for destructuring alists or is it something people tend to implement as needed for a given situation?

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16:35 <jackdaniel> assoc is a good way to work with them I think

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17:46 <tux0r> i second assoc

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18:36 <decweb> You can also destructure them in LOOP bindings, but not FORMAT directives.

18:37 <decweb> Personally, any time I consider using an alist, I reject it in favor of a PLIST for FORMAT friendliness.

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20:33 <Guest18> Thanks, I know assoc but I was thinking of something to bind multiple properties at once, as you can do for a plist with destructuring-bind

20:36 <aeth> it's not optimal, but the most concise thing to do would be to use alexandria:alist-plist to convert to a plist and then deal with it the same way, with keys in a d-s-b

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20:39 <Guest18> ok, makes sense, thanks

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21:09 <coat> where is the FORMAT ~v documented? I can't find it anywhere here: https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/22_c.htm

21:09 <ixelp> CLHS: Section 22.3

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21:10 <coat> nevermind. found it. "In place of a prefix parameter to a directive, V (or v) can be used. In this case, format takes an argument from args as a parameter to the directive. "

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21:28 <coat> why does (format nil "~5~") print ~ five times?

21:29 <coat> nevermind again. found here: https://www.lispworks.com/documentation/HyperSpec/Body/22_cae.htm

21:29 <ixelp> CLHS: Section 22.3.1.5

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