<Wizzup>
sicelo: do we need the changes in both hildon-meta and hildon-meta-core?
<inky>
please whenever daedalus transition is finished, and you feel comfortable, remember about mz617 and documenting its installation.
<inky>
i am ok with hard manual ways.
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<sicelo>
Wizzup: yes, the hildon-meta changes are both needed. we do need wl1251-cal to be installed by default on N900, and iio-sensor-proxy is a dep on all devices, so it should go to -common instead of being dependend on per device
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<Wizzup>
ok
<mkf>
Wizzup: what can i do to make a q8 device package?
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<Wizzup>
first we need to know what sw changes are required
<saeed>
that is a good question
<saeed>
i don't remeber, but i recall it was close to none
<Wizzup>
surely some dts changes at least?
<saeed>
yes, of course, but are they part of hildon?
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<Wizzup>
that's a complicated question I guess, but they are part of the images we build
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<saeed>
q8 tablets also are widely different
<saeed>
i don't know how to make it one image for q8 tablets
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<saeed>
i cant think of any good solution, any ideas?
<saeed>
there are lik 3 or 5 devices per q8 board
<saeed>
and i think there are like 5 q8 boards
<saeed>
i have two
<saeed>
how do we make images for these? one image per board configuration?
<saeed>
setting stuff during boot time?
<Wizzup>
I think the only challenge is in the dts, whether that's one image for every dts variation or just some documentation for users
<saeed>
asking user to bring their one?
<saeed>
true.
<Wizzup>
we build all the sunxi dtses
<saeed>
*their own
<saeed>
some sunxi dtses are hopelessly incomplete
<saeed>
such as mine
<saeed>
is there is a way to figure which dts is for our device from the device?
<saeed>
like tell uboot if its a q8-rev1.2 use this dts
<Wizzup>
configure what and where
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<Wizzup>
I think there is, but I don't remember
<saeed>
that reduces the problem to finding which dts each tablet has from the uboot
<Wizzup>
I think that's just in the dd command that you use
<Wizzup>
I don't know if u-boot has access to the specific defconfig that was used/built
<Wizzup>
but also, do we need to worry about supporting 1000 sunxi devices out of the box, or do we just document the 1-2 manual steps for them
<Wizzup>
if the meta packages are all the same (lima driver, etc) and the kernel supports them all, we really just care about the kernel dts
<Wizzup>
and maybe we just have them set that somewhere
<Wizzup>
say boot.scr or whatever that is now
<saeed>
that is a fair choice.
<Wizzup>
and then we just don't touch it
<Wizzup>
and then the generic image should work
<saeed>
some sunxi kernels do require drivers in staging, is that acceptable?
<saeed>
i'm not very famliar with kernel modules and if they can be reducded to a module and installed as a dpkg
<Wizzup>
this is your wifi chip?
<saeed>
yes.
<Wizzup>
generally most things are modules unless we need/want them during boot
<Wizzup>
most wifi drivers are modules
<Wizzup>
freemangordon: I am a bit confused, do we have hildon-meta-core in two different packages now
<Wizzup>
I think we removed it from hildon-meta, right?
<Wizzup>
Maybe I just didn't update the master branch and sicelo did a PR against that
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<saeed>
Wizzup: very well. what document do i need to read to know debian packaging?
<Wizzup>
for what purpose?
<saeed>
to package that wifi driver
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<Wizzup>
saeed: isn't it in the kernel, we just need to enable it?
<saeed>
it is in kernel, but it's in staging, isn't it bad to do that?
<saeed>
and, hm, fmg had a patched version for that driver which works worse in my case but seems to work better in his case?
<saeed>
i don't know which version we should ship
<Wizzup>
better to work that out with him I think, we should ship one
<saeed>
freemangordon: ^
<saeed>
sicelo: how often do you repair your n900 usb port?
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<sicelo>
Wizzup: what's the question about hildon-meta?
<sicelo>
that's there's core and non-core? when i asked first time,, I think you had explained that -core will potentially be used for minimal images?
<sicelo>
saeed: if it's done correctly, should be once only
<Wizzup>
sicelo: both hildon-meta and hildon-meta-core control files have a hildon-meta-core
<Wizzup>
that seems ... not ok
<sicelo>
ah, didn't look, and yes, sounds wrong
<sicelo>
I'd guess meta should depend on meta-core, ans whatever else differentiates it (meta) from core
<sicelo>
s/ans/and/
<sicelo>
ah, just checked. it's a bit of a mess 🤭
<Wizzup>
probably best to check with FMG, see what the intention was
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<Wizzup>
do we have amazfish on daedalus yet?
<Wizzup>
harbour-amazfish I mean
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<saeed>
hm. i wonder if type c is possible on n900
<saeed>
found nothing about it on web
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<Wizzup>
is there any point in keeping maedevu snapshot backups from 2021 - 2024?
<Wizzup>
Like, to see which it was like on a given day or something ... seems pretty useless?
<sicelo>
i don't think they're very useful, but if we have storage ...
<Wizzup>
kind of :p
<Wizzup>
I'll sync them elsewhere as I re-image this machine
<bencoh>
saeed: you can always solder a type-C connector instead of a microB (a get away with it with a few hacks here and there), but don't expect any of the recent type C / usb3 features, of course :)
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