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<InPhase> tcurdt: Well installing Finder on Linux would be challenging.
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<InPhase> Before today I never once tried double-clicking on a scad file on this laptop, as I haven't "installed" OpenSCAD since like 2 laptops ago. I did out of curiosity go do it, and it seems to decide to open it in Mousepad, a mediocre grade text editor that was default installed.
<InPhase> I could go set it up, but it doesn't make sense for my workflow, since I use many different openscad versions. And if I did set it up, the outcome would be identical to running openscad with the file on the command line, which I attempted for a comparison. This results in normal behavior.
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<kintel> tcurdt Is this an issue _only_ with 2025.05.09 and not earlier versions?
<kintel> Just tested locally and it works ok here (macOS 14 on M1), so we'll probably need to figure out what makes your situation special..
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<tcurdt> kintel: this worked fine in 2024.05.24 (git 8a890a9e1) ... I am on 15.3.2 on M1
<tcurdt> I really had to upgrade because import(file, center=true) is just ❤️
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<Guest72> in latest development snapshot can we get the wireframe view?
<teepee> not sure if that's merged yet.
<tcurdt> I've opened a bug for it https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5891
<gbruno> [github] tcurdt opened issue #5891 (double-click on file to open crashes on start) https://github.com/openscad/openscad/issues/5891
<tcurdt> I'll try a bit more to find more details
<Guest72> ok thanks - very useful feature - though not yet available in the latest
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<stealth_> anyone else getting `/opt/bambustudio-bin/bin/bambu-studio: error while loading shared libraries: libOSMesa.so.8`
<L29Ah> nice proprietary software
<stealth_> dependency is such a pain when it comes to linux
<L29Ah> nah, it works good when you have a package manager that handles it all for you
<teepee> it's not really proprietary though
<teepee> the issue is distros can't package everything
<stealth_> after i upgrade to linux 6.14.6 this started happening, i take it that library is outdated and software needs to upgrade to new path
<teepee> you could try the flatpak version which is more isolated from the base system
<stealth_> i tried .appimgage same error
<teepee> same as what?
<teepee> what other packages do they ship?
<stealth_> same error while loading shared libraries: libOSMesa.so.8`
<teepee> with what? 1) appimage, 2) ???
<stealth_> both, appimage and bin install
<teepee> those are probably near identical
<teepee> like I said, flatpak is a container, so it has pretty much everything shipped in the package, it it should not cause library errors
<stealth_> i just create a copy+link to `sudo cp libGLX_mesa.so libOSMesa.so.8` seems to work
<teepee> ouch
<stealth_> ya you can say that again :D
<teepee> that's unlikely to be the correct library ;-)
<teepee> I would expect you have some OSMesa just with a different number
<stealth_> well it works! :D
<teepee> that's the offscreen render library
<stealth_> i did search for it couldn't find anything.
<teepee> as long as you don't hit that code path using the library, you'll be fine
<teepee> maybe it's a separate package?
<teepee> yup, debian has libosmesa6
<stealth_> i think that library is outdated! since i have such a new linux kernel
<teepee> it probably has nothing to do with the kernel
<teepee> that debian package has libosmesa.so.6 *and* libosmesa.so.8 interestingly
<stealth_> well it might be i install new mesa! and it dosen't have it anymore. i looked through all its files and i can't find that library anywhere.
<teepee> you probably should check if that package exists for your distro
<stealth_> mesa Version 1:25.1.0-3
<teepee> and is there an osmesa package?
<stealth_> nope, no such thing.
<teepee> what distro is it?
<stealth_> cachyos
<stealth_> its arch under the hood
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<teepee> well, maybe they really decided to drop a library in the latest mesa version
<teepee> that's very bad for AppImages
<stealth_> who knows... this was such a waste of time! when you are wanting to do printing and what not.
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<stealth_> windows uses don't have to deal with such bs. why i also like zig since it has such a good dependency to not break your software like this.
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<InPhase> stealth_: The same happens on Windows routinely.
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<InPhase> stealth_: It's usually just less clear what's going wrong.
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<stealth_> InPhase, well lets not go into trash talking windows, its unending :p
<teepee> shipping linux binaries outside of distro builds is still mostly unsolved
<teepee> flatpak seems to be mostly working but has still some issues due to the container blocking things
<teepee> good for security, bad for integration
<stealth_> in zig you can link to download exactly library version needed for your software to run
<teepee> huh? on runtime? that's horrible
<stealth_> no on install
<stealth_> or compile time
<teepee> well, compile time is not interesting, that does not solve anything
<teepee> every compile knows what library it uses
<stealth_> you will have to talk to #zig on exact detail on what it does, but i know it designed to solve these problems.
<teepee> lets see if it's standard 17
<teepee> https://news.itsfoss.com/onepackage-announcement/ (check publish date first ;-)
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<stealth_> looks like my monkeypatch is the best solution for now.
<teepee> yeah
<teepee> whoever solves distributing linux binaries can get a huge virtual hug from me, that would save so much headaches :)
<teepee> not going to hold my breath for that happening anytime soon
<stealth_> best to write software without dependency or include library that comes with the language
<stealth_> zig is also cross compiler and comes with it own c/c++ compiler as well right out of the box!
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