#osdev on 2025-06-05 — irc logs at libera.catirclogs.org

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18:40 <heat> netbsduser`: https://dspace.cuni.cz/bitstream/handle/20.500.11956/61313/150012224.pdf?sequence=1&isAllowed=y

18:46 <netbsduser`> heat: this link won't load me unfortunately

18:47 <heat> i think we're overloading the server on $other_channel

18:48 <GeDaMo> I managed to load it

18:48 <mjg> that's why netbsduser` did not

18:48 <mjg> bad GeDaMo

18:48 <GeDaMo> :P

18:49 <heat> https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/jzuZ3qam/150012224.pdf

18:49 <heat> there you go netbsduser`

18:49 <heat> (irccloud is really fucking handy, all hail capitalism)

18:51 <netbsduser`> oh yes, i heard of this one

18:51 <netbsduser`> supervised by martin decky, he is father of helenos

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19:07 * kof673 counteroffers the hail, demands a wage for hailing

19:21 <nikolar> Huh cute

19:25 <mjg> https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/xtigikvqorbxtpy2rh52fobvunp7yrwkfpj4muwaogr4ijxl4j@s327kfvhpi3v/

19:25 <bslsk05> lore.kernel.org: Making sure you're not a bot!

19:25 <mjg> are you guys on bcachefs yet

19:26 <nikolar> No

19:27 <nikolar> Is bcachefs still upstream

19:27 <heat> for now

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19:37 <Ermine> maybe i should jump in bcachefs bandwagon

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19:44 <nikolar> don't, there's no guarantee it will still be there in like a year or whatever lol

19:45 <heat> yeah and then you'll be stuck compiling out of tree modules with dkms

19:46 <mjg> ext2 has the best longevity track record on linux

19:46 <mjg> use that

19:47 <heat> fs/ext2 is slightly unusable on linux

19:47 <heat> for a discreetly stupid problem

19:48 <heat> ext2 is supposed to ignore "HTREE" directories, which it does. mkfs sets that flag. fsck does not ignore that flag

19:48 <heat> fs/ext4 also does not ignore that flag

19:50 <clever> i would say, there is no reason to use ext2, just go ext4

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19:50 <clever> what do you gain by going backwards?

19:51 <mjg> code with more maturity

19:55 <heat> technically yeah

19:55 <heat> i mean

19:55 <heat> fs/ext2 is a loooooooooooooooooooooooooooot simpler

19:55 <heat> fs/ext4 is a "real filesystem"

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19:56 <mjg> i store my backups on ext2

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19:58 <heat> i store my backups on bcachefs

19:58 <GeDaMo> What are "backups"? :|

19:58 <heat> sadly i have to announce i lost my family photos

19:58 <heat> and the fs author just told me "i'm a fucking idiot"

19:58 <heat> which I do agree with, by the way

19:59 <mjg> he promised to work on restoring the dta tho

19:59 <mjg> just run dd over the partiion a few times

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