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<the_oz> harro
<nikolar> KORNIAL
<bslsk05> ​'Disturbed - Down With The Sickness (Official Music Video) [HD UPGRADE]' by Disturbed
<zid> nikolamp
<Ermine> nikolafs
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<zid> nikolar: have you ever considered removing the i from your nick?
<nikolar> Why's that
<zid> so you can be kornal not kornial
<zid> iKornal :o
<nikolar> Kek
<fraielestoiles> kornial != nikolar
<kof673> what happened to the person who was screwing around with visual studio IIRC was that mcro d ? :D
<kof673> devving on old windows in particular
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<kof673> MSYS-1.0.8.exe i believe works on win98 lol i require a bourne shell for now lol just wondering what they were using, or just makefiles...
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<the_oz> You collect building systems like pokemon
<the_oz> kinda cool
<the_oz> I WANT TO BUILD THEVERY BEST
<the_oz> NO ONE EVER WAS
<the_oz> IN A WOTRLD I CAN DEFEBD
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<kof673> i just don't want to write/maintain a batch file or whatever the windows scripting host thing was. however, i think for somewhere there is no bourne shell...i can do like make option to just output command used, without running anything, then sed the output
<kof673> then i could generate a "list of commands" on unix, that just echoes commands, and it would not have any error checking, but should be easily adaptable "anywhere"
<the_oz> I used to do like
<the_oz> MSYS
<kof673> these aren't practicle concerns, i just try to be flexible . yeah i think this old msys is fine lol
<the_oz> then I go eh git carries bash with it
<kof673> i just remember old cygwin always seemed flaky. but this is just to run a build script
<the_oz> was cygwin the lkike checkbox of crap
<kof673> iirc msys and mingw were minimal, cygwin was trying to give "full[er at least] posix"
<kof673> so it was simulating a lot more, and heavier, etc.
<the_oz> yeeeah
<kof673> and e.g. fat filesystems don't have ntfs symlink-like stuff, etc.
<the_oz> discusstang
<kof673> so was worse on 9x/me iirc