00:00 <midfavila> havin leftover nachos for dimmner tonight because i can't cook

00:00 <midfavila> in this heat

00:33 <riteo> fair

00:33 <riteo> no need to reheat them either

00:33 <riteo> stay melty all day long

00:34 <riteo> btw piadine here are just wheat

00:34 <riteo> with a fatty addition like animal fat or oil

02:41 <kris_> common viewpoint i just don't understand what people are getting out of ruining everyone elses free time

04:20 <midfavila> man someone remind me to get a sewing machine

04:20 <midfavila> doing anything other than minor touch-ups by hand is awful

04:21 <midfavila> i've been working on a project for like an hour now and i'm maybe an eighth the way done

04:21 <midfavila> probably partly on account of being patently incompetent, but still

11:18 <riteo> went to the gastroenterologist

11:18 <riteo> he was like "yea gastroscopy, cya soon", not a month luckily

11:19 <riteo> now just gotta spend a crapton of money because public health is getting underfunded and is basically useless

11:19 <riteo> wahooo bing bing thank you meloni

11:20 <riteo> hopefully I can get the issue figured out in a couple of weeks, I hope to pass at least some part of august as a working person

11:21 <esotericwarfare> Hi all. I installed kiss linux lol and I still cannot boot without using nomodeset

11:21 <esotericwarfare> I cannot boot without using nomodeset I compile the kernel manual without any modules I'm using Intel Celeron N2806

11:22 <esotericwarfare> with integrated GPU. So I guess i915 should work

11:22 <esotericwarfare> It gets stuck in loading kernel if I remove nodemodeset

11:22 <riteo> esotericwarfare: "without any modules" you mean with the relevant modules builtin right?

11:22 <esotericwarfare> yes I guess

11:22 <esotericwarfare> I search for I915 in the make menuconfig and its enabled

11:23 <riteo> mhh

11:23 <riteo> perhaps you need firmware

11:23 <esotericwarfare> riteo: I boot archlinux and run make localyesconfig and search one by one CONFIG_....

11:24 <esotericwarfare> riteo: I did: cd /usr/lib && git clone ...linux-firmware && mv linux-firmware firmware

11:24 <esotericwarfare> So I installed the linux-firmware

11:24 <riteo> not sure really

11:24 <riteo> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Intel might help

11:25 <riteo> perhaps some setting is missing

11:25 <riteo> also make sure that /lib/firmware is set as the firmware root in the firmware loading page

11:25 <esotericwarfare> how do I do that?

11:26 <esotericwarfare> I think /lib/firmware is the same as /usr/lib/firmware both contain the same files

11:26 <riteo> in kconfig "device drivers" -> "generic driver options" -> "firmware blobs root directory"

11:27 <esotericwarfare> Oh alright I'm gonna try that one thanks

11:36 <esotericwarfare> No rule to make target '/lib/firmware//lib/firmware', needed by 'drivers/base/firmware_loader/buildin//lib/firmware.gen.o' . Stop

11:38 <esotericwarfare> So I dont think I need to use /lib/firmware directory I believed my kernel it's already build with the firmware

11:43 <esotericwarfare> I'm gonna read the Intel Wiki of Gentoo

12:39 <riteo> no esotericwarfare to build the firmware in you gotta specify each file in a special setting

12:41 <esotericwarfare> okay thanks

12:44 <esotericwarfare> when I build the kernel it says diff unrecognized option: I is there any fix for this?

12:45 <sewn> ignore

12:47 <esotericwarfare> I'm running Intel Celeron N2806 and I'm gonna use /lib/firmware/i915/bxt_dmc_ver1_07.bin

15:32 <sewn> -riteo :c

15:51 <kris_> -riteo :c

15:52 <kris_> sewn: what do you run on servers

15:53 <sewn> software or distro?

15:53 <kris_> distro

15:53 <kris_> >chimera

15:53 <sewn> i literally already told you

15:53 <kris_> i am fucking FORGETFUL

15:53 <sewn> and you even mocked it by saying u would never

15:53 <kris_> and didnt know if u were joking

15:53 <kris_> with chimera

15:54 <kris_> sewn: don't take my statements like that too esriously

15:54 <kris_> seriously*

15:54 <sewn> i will

15:54 <sewn> i really am using chimera on my server

15:54 <sewn> i needed a good service manager with good restarting good dependency management and logging and shit

15:54 <sewn> in the future i might actually switch from chimera to kiss when i move my server from the cloud to a laptop in my room but we'll see

15:55 <kris_> yeah that's valid

15:55 <kris_> the chimera service manager thing i mean

15:55 <kris_> the reason i wasn't sure if you were joking is because i thought chimera was still kinda unstable since i thought they consider it beta software

15:56 <sewn> chimera is a package

15:56 <sewn> the service manager is called dinit

15:56 <sewn> if dinit is stable then its enough shush

15:56 <kris_> okie

15:58 <kris_> also yeah i need to do the same, move some of the things i host on a vps into my bedroom

15:58 <kris_> though the only thing i really want to do that with is my irc bouncer

15:59 <midfavila> my boss keeps buying random junk without consulting me first aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

15:59 <midfavila> why even hire someone to do IT shit for you

16:00 <midfavila> >:C

16:00 <kris_> dont say that he might fire you

16:00 <kris_> lol

16:00 <kris_> my grandmother is the same way tbh, she's constantly asking me to pick out a new laptop or router or printer or something and then buys some completely different piece of shit she's found at walmart

16:00 <kris_> and then wants me to deal with setting it up

16:00 <kris_> on that note, FUCK HP printers

16:04 <midfavila> that's just my job

16:04 <midfavila> every day

16:04 <midfavila> xwx

16:04 <midfavila> >hey mid i want to get a camera

16:04 <midfavila> >sure thing boss, i recommend XYZ. it's not the strictly cheapest option but it's reliable and easy to set up

16:04 <midfavila> >gets some 16$ piece of junk instead

16:05 <midfavila> same with the laptop that serves as the work computer for everyone

16:05 <midfavila> spent like 700$ on a dual core HP with 4gb of memory

16:05 <midfavila> like

16:05 <midfavila> dude

16:07 <kris_> i guess just be quiet and deal with it

16:07 <kris_> that's really what jobs are

16:07 <kris_> varying success is actually varying degrees of tolerance for stupidity

16:08 <kris_> sewn: also yeah i like chimera

16:08 <kris_> i may consider trying it on desktop, i like the community there

16:08 <kris_> the community around a project is incredibly important to me

16:11 <sewn> and ur still not gonna use chimera

16:12 <kris_> i mean, not for servres

16:12 <kris_> id prefer to avoid rolling releases for that at this point

16:28 <sewn> bleh

16:28 <sewn> why\

18:01 <esotericwarfare> kiss linux do not have gpm?

18:03 <midfavila> esotericwarfare: check kiss-community

18:04 <midfavila> if it's not there you need to build it yourself

18:10 <esotericwarfare> midfavila: Thanks. I installed kiss linux on bare metal and I still cannot boot using the i915 drivers. I'm on a Intel Celeron N2806 and I have a archlinux live pendrive. I did run modinfo i915 , lsmod | grep i915 I clone the linux-firmware repo on /lib and enable the /lib/firmware as Firmware blobs root directory and i915/* as Build named firmware blobs into the kernel binary

18:11 <esotericwarfare> I can only boot using the nomodeset, I need to read all the Intel wiki of Gentoo but I'll do that later because I need to do other stuff

18:16 <esotericwarfare> sorry for the questions im a noob

18:19 <esotericwarfare> Oh great to build gpm I need aclocal, libtoolize, autoheader, autoconf :)

18:22 <esotericwarfare> Okay automake, autoconf, libtool is on the community repo :)

18:44 <kiedtl> Yep, you can use `kiss s *automake*` to find packages

18:44 <kiedtl> And use kiss-find (`kiss b kiss-find`) to search for other folk's repos which have packages

19:03 <esotericwarfare> kiedtl: When I'm compiling something kiss always says not found, I run find on the repo folders

19:04 <esotericwarfare> kiss search *firefox* ERROR *firefox* not found

19:06 <esotericwarfare> When kiss finish compiling kiss search works

20:12 <kiedtl> Does KISS_PATH point to the correct place?

20:12 <kiedtl> I mean, the exact command you listed should work just fine as long as everything's configured right

20:23 <esotericwarfare> Oh you right, I've KISS_PATH defined in /root/.profile and I forgot to copy that to my user

20:25 <esotericwarfare> I should put that in /etc/profile