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<esotericwarfare> hi all
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<riteo> welp
<riteo> the power really fucking sucks lately
<riteo> so much that it was my "can eat normal stuff day" and my fucking favourite local pub was without any electric power
<riteo> for the whole evening
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<esotericwarfare> I build every firmware and I still cannot boot kiss linux without nomodeset :(
<riteo> esotericwarfare: do you have an initramfs
<esotericwarfare> Maybe it's the kernel version I use. I ran make defconfig and make localyesconfig enable every single CONFIG_... as core not as module
<esotericwarfare> riteo: no
<riteo> that's weird then
<riteo> you should see the kernel logs somehow
<riteo> there's surely some debug tool somewhere
<esotericwarfare> I installed Gentoo and I didn't even need the linux-firmware to boot
<riteo> even if that just means running "dmesg > /help.log" as root
<esotericwarfare> riteo: I can write and I can turn off my pc but I cannot see anything more than "Loading kernel..."
<riteo> if you can write then try doing that ig
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<riteo> dump dmesg somewhere
<esotericwarfare> I can write my user and my password and write poweroff and my pc will turn off but I cannot see anything
<riteo> yea but if you dump dmesg then reboot with nomodeset you can see what's going wrong hopefully
<esotericwarfare> okay
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<esotericwarfare> dmesg: https://paste.c-net.org/ToothedSlowly
<esotericwarfare> I paste there with curl --silent --databinary @dmesg.txt 'https://paste.c-net.org'
<esotericwarfare> --data-binary*
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: When I run make INSTALL_MOD_STRIP=1 modules_install it says SYMLINK /lib/modules/6.15.4/build INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.order INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.builtin INSTALL /lib/modules/6.15.4/modules.builtin.modinfo DEPMOD /lib/modules/6.15.4
<esotericwarfare> When in reality that command only has to output DEPMOD /lib/modules/6.15.4 without anything
<esotericwarfare> I check the make menuconfig but I didn't see any M
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<riteo> esotericwarfare: did you disable module loading
<riteo> you can do that
<esotericwarfare> yes
<riteo> uh it's not even fetching the firmware
<riteo> that's weird
<riteo> do you not even see, like, ttys even if you switch them?
<riteo> the fact that it works with nomodeset is really weird
<esotericwarfare> riteo: No, I dont see anything I didn't try to run sway tho
<esotericwarfare> riteo: It happens to my running in virtualbox too
<esotericwarfare> It happened*
<riteo> gentoo says that you might need CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE
<riteo> or maybe just pass `acpi_osi="Linux"` to the kernel
<riteo> maybe it's an hardware thing
<riteo> it's really weird
<esotericwarfare> riteo: I did that. I first add nomodeset but it wasn't working so I enable the CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE I tried with the acpi_osi="Linux" too
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<esotericwarfare> I boot archlinux 6.6 I think and downloaded linux kernel 6.15.4 and run make localyesconfig enable every single CONFIG_ but maybe I should download the same kernel version that I was using on my archlinux live
<riteo> does the vga port work
<riteo> I wonder if it's redirecting everything to that
<riteo> I mean it should usually mirror everything to all displays but I'm really not suer what's going on
<esotericwarfare> I dont have a VGA port only HDMI
<riteo> uh
<riteo> well that then
<riteo> the kernel reports a vga connector too
<riteo> maybe it's unwired
<riteo> there's apparently a `video=` argument and I'm reading that some old intel users had to specify that manually
<esotericwarfare> riteo: I'll check that
<riteo> although note that you definitely don't have lvds, just edp
<esotericwarfare> so I should add video=card0-eDP-1:d ?
<esotericwarfare> I don't know I never did this
<riteo> me neither :P
<riteo> I'd first see what happens through the hdmi honestly
<esotericwarfare> Okay
<esotericwarfare> Thanks
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<riteo> hope they read the logs
<riteo> in case
<riteo> :d disables the output so it's definitely not it, although it might be wise to manually set it ig
<riteo> maybe ':e' or ':D' might help
<riteo> those look so much like smileys lmao
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: I booted with nomodeset and I did a cd Videos mpv .
<esotericwarfare> and the video opened
<esotericwarfare> before I downloaded a video with yt-dlp so I tried to run sway with seatd-launch and it did not work
<esotericwarfare> so maybe it's some config_framebuffer_console I don't know but I have that enable I'll check that again
<esotericwarfare> https://paste.c-net.org/ShamedNellie thats the output from running seatd-launch sway
<esotericwarfare> If I run with nomodeset it outputs: 0 GPU detected that same command so something is working
<esotericwarfare> If I boot*
<esotericwarfare> My user is on the video group
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: it didd run sway with seatd-launch sway but I don't know if the keyboard was working because it did not open foot
<esotericwarfare> all with broken fonts
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<esotericwarfare> I compile the kernel with CONFIG_FB_VESA maybe I need to disable that. My PC has Legacy BOOT compatibility
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<riteo> esotericwarfare: looks like the :d thing disables the output btw
<riteo> with nomodeset you disable a lot of stuff
<riteo> so I wouldn't rely on it tbh
<riteo> no wait
<riteo> ughhhhhhh tbf I'm not entirely sure how much kernel modesetting might be useful but IIRC most wayland compositors depend on that
<esotericwarfare> riteo: I run without nomodeset and without the video= parameter and sway did open but I have to write the command blind because I cannot see the TTY
<esotericwarfare> I can watch videos con mpv with DRM from the TTY but I cannot see what I'm typing
<esotericwarfare> with*
<riteo> that's interesting
<riteo> so sway works uh?
<riteo> I guess the issue is with the tty then
<esotericwarfare> yes
<riteo> do you have getty running
<esotericwarfare> the tty only works when I write nomodeset
<riteo> yea but is it still running
<riteo> even without nomodeset
<esotericwarfare> I guess yes because I can type my user and password
<esotericwarfare> but I don't know how do I check
<riteo> well on sway you can check on htop
<esotericwarfare> haha I need to reboot
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<riteo> I think I found it
<riteo> printk: legacy console [tty0] enabled
<riteo> nvm
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: Now I'm running sway again, I installed the terminus font
<esotericwarfare> ps aux | grep getty throws me nothing
<riteo> wat
<riteo> what if you run it
<riteo> as root
<riteo> wait
<esotericwarfare> nothing
<riteo> getty 38400 tty1
<riteo> or getty 38400 tty2
<riteo> and then you switch to it
<esotericwarfare> getty 38400 tty1 operation not permitted
<esotericwarfare> as root
<riteo> tty2?
<esotericwarfare> same
<riteo> uh
<riteo> you also have a crapton of ttys for some reason
<riteo> like 53
<esotericwarfare> when booting nomodeset I only have 2 tty
<esotericwarfare> TTY1 TTY2
<esotericwarfare> I guess you're reading from my dmesg
<riteo> yea
<esotericwarfare> I'm happy sway works lol
<esotericwarfare> I'll send a capture when grim finish compiling lol
<riteo> fair enough
<riteo> yk I have no idea how it works
<riteo> like, what spawns getty
<riteo> ik about some kernel settings though, lemme check
<esotericwarfare> okay thank you for your time
<esotericwarfare> In my /etc/inittab I have tty1::respawn:/bin/getty 38400 tty1
<esotericwarfare> setsid getty 38400 tty3 works and ps aux | grep getty says that getty is running
<esotericwarfare> but when I switch to tty3 it doesnt work
<riteo> btw yea it was inittab not the kernl
<riteo> yk what
<riteo> try installing util-linux and switching getty to agetty
<riteo> maybe there's something funky with getty
<esotericwarfare> Okay installing util-linux
<esotericwarfare> I think I already install that
<esotericwarfare> but kiss do not detected if I install the package before
<riteo> kiss l | grep util-linux
<riteo> and you can find out
<riteo> wait you don't need the grep
<riteo> even just kiss l util-linux
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<esotericwarfare> riteo: Oh right I forgot kiss list thanks
<esotericwarfare> so yea I have util-linux installed
<esotericwarfare> util-linux 2.41-1
<esotericwarfare> So from the /etc/inittab I switch getty to agetty
<riteo> yea
<esotericwarfare> done. now reboot?
<riteo> ig
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<esotericwarfare> now I see getty running: ps aux | grep getty
<esotericwarfare> but I cannot use the tty
<esotericwarfare> agetty*
<esotericwarfare> should I disable CONFIG_FB_VESA? If I'm using EFI?
<esotericwarfare> but I have legacy boot enable on the BIOS
<esotericwarfare> i dont know if that has something to do with it
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<midfavila> morning computer smoochers
<midfavila> i'm so glad it's friday
* midfavila dies
<riteo> esotericwarfare: I don't think so
<riteo> morning mid :3
<midfavila> hi riteo :ooooooooooooo
<esotericwarfare> I don't know then. Now I'm compiling firefox
<esotericwarfare> hi midfavila
<riteo> lemme guess agetty didn't work?
<esotericwarfare> nop
<esotericwarfare> its running tho
<esotericwarfare> riteo: with or without the firmware the TTY never worked without the nomodeset
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<midfavila> >compiling firefox
<midfavila> pain
<midfavila> pain
<midfavila> pain
<midfavila> pain
<midfavila> pain
<midfavila> pain
<LeoM> pain
<vulpine> bread
<midfavila> what kind tho
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<kris_> i'm not looking forward to today
<kris_> there's going to be so much loud
<midfavila> YEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
<midfavila> FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
<midfavila> EAAAAAAAAAAAAAGLLLLLLLLLLLLEEEEEEEEEEEE
<midfavila> CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
<midfavila> BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG
<midfavila> :3c
<kris_> i went to a party last night and there was already a shit ton of loud
<kris_> copious amounts of loud
<midfavila> you just hate freedom
<kris_> usually people shoot off shit tons of fireworks nightly in the 2 weeks leading up to the 4th
<midfavila> smd
<midfavila> hh
<kris_> freedom just means expecting to be allowed to be an annoying douchebag
<kris_> apparently
<midfavila> yes
<midfavila> it literally does in the sense used by liberals and tories
<midfavila> lol
<midfavila> or the dempublican one-party establishment
<kris_> i think this country needs more people like ron swanson
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<midfavila> needs more mamdanis
<kris_> i will continue sitting here writing my shitty little fetch program instead of watching things blow up
<kris_> i do really like how fireworks look it's just so fucking loud
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<kris_> midfavila: do you like radiohead
<midfavila> i'm not a "music" guy
<midfavila> so idk who that is
<midfavila> tfw 14.2% youth unemployment
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<kris_> midfavila: unlucky, i love radiohead
<kris_> though they kinda unintentionally started the age of music streaming
<kris_> snowball effect from them being tired of labels taking most of their money so they just posted a zip archive online and said "pay however much you want for it, is our new album"
<kris_> which went incredibly well for them actually
<kris_> like literally you could either have it for free or enter an amount you wanted to pay for the download and that was that
<midfavila> yeah people want to support people who do cool stuff
<kris_> one of my favorite live performances
<midfavila> sorry, not really in a mood to do music
<midfavila> i'll listen to it later
<kris_> all good
<midfavila> yeah i've been dooming pretty fucking hard this week so
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<esotericwarfare> kiss b tree: failed to download http://mama.indstate.edu/users/tree/src/tree-2.1.1.tgz
<esotericwarfare> I guess I'll download it manually
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<kris_> riteo !!!!
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