<fosskers>
jackdaniel that one I haven't seen yet, thanks for the link
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<aeth>
NIL, the boolean/empty-list is of type NULL, not of type NIL (since that is nil-as-in-false and nothing should be considered false in this sense, even NIL)... probably the most confusing thing not quite clearly expressed on that chart
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<aeth>
(doesn't that mean all NULLs, i.e. just NIL, are a BOOLEAN? why is there no relationship?)
<aeth>
probably the most confusing part of the CL types other than simple-string and simple-vector being mostly useless compared to the more verbose simple-array
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<fosskers>
God bless `simple-array`.
<fosskers>
`(simple-array character (*))` is the One True string type xD
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<aeth>
now if only they let you do (simple-vector character) and save a lot, but nooo they only let you do (simple-vector some-size) where the whole exercise is probably useless because you're probably not microoptimizing your T arrays
<aeth>
probably one of the few parts of the standard that I'd say is outright wrong, along with the minimum short-float being too large to be used for real half floats
<fosskers>
I only learned of the nature of simple-vector within the past few days and I'm surprised. It's all T, and it's also the default type of Vector Literals.
<fosskers>
At least we have `svref`?
<aeth>
again only for T arrays!
<aeth>
I sometimes use CHAR (probably no real difference over using SCHAR), but I usually just use AREF for everything because if it needs to be optimized, the compiler will probably have enough compile time information already
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<jackdaniel>
is there any reason why listen is specified only for character streams? or was it a simple omission?
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<yitzi>
jackdaniel: I don't think they accounted for network streams. They made the same mistake in the implementation of STREAM-LISTEN in gray streams. It only accounts for character streams.
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<jackdaniel>
yitzi: n.b ECL since like yesterday has unread-byte and peek-byte (and appropriate stream variants)
<jackdaniel>
(as well as improved bivalent stream support)
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