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<jackdaniel>
oh, less work for me -- cool! :)
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<beach>
The SBCL download page suggests that there are RISC-V 64 binaries available, but there is not version number and the green squares are not links. Does anybody know what is going on?
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<beach>
Maybe I should install something else on my RISC-V box, like ECL.
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<jackdaniel>
go for it ;)
<beach>
Do you supply binaries, or do I have to build it using the C tool chain?
<jackdaniel>
I don't supply binaries
<beach>
Got it.
<jackdaniel>
too much work for no reward (quite the opposite actually, if the perspn misses some libraries on thd system they come back and complain)
<jackdaniel>
person*
<beach>
I fully understand.
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<fosskers>
Building ECL is a decent experience actually, and reasonably fast.
<Colleen>
fosskers: mesaoptimizer said at 2025.08.20 18:56:42: if you can, I'd love to read a comparison of cl-transducers and the SERIES package. Perhaps you can put that in the cl-transducers readme
<fosskers>
mesaoptimizer: someone did a video about that actually on Youtube, but transducers has also gotten better since then so perhaps I should put something down in text.
<fosskers>
I also gave a talk about transducers last year at EmacsConf.
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<mesaoptimizer>
lol why did he drop, I was going to reply
<mesaoptimizer>
::notify I like the package a lot, I think its less painful to understand and use compared to LOOP, even for basic arbitrary loops like generating the first n natural numbers or even numbers, for exmaple. But that is probably because I spent two months learning Haskell last year.
<Colleen>
mesaoptimizer: Got it. I'll let I know as soon as possible.
<dutchie>
mesaoptimizer: you missed a fosskers in your notify
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<mesaoptimizer>
awkward
<mesaoptimizer>
::notify fosskers I like the cl-transducers package a lot, I think its less painful to understand and use compared to LOOP, even for basic arbitrary loops like generating the first n natural numbers or even numbers, for exmaple. But that is probably because I spent two months learning Haskell last year.
<Colleen>
mesaoptimizer: Got it. I'll let fosskers know as soon as possible.
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<Posterdati>
hi
<beach>
Hello Posterdati.
<beach>
Posterdati: If I were you, I would hang around a bit after you solved your problems. I think you would learn some things then.
<Posterdati>
please help, sometimes query telegram bot server using drakma http-request give me sbcl sb-bsd-sockets:name-service-error: updates are retrieved using polling method... Thanks!
<Posterdati>
uh?
<Posterdati>
could be to a repeated httpd-request while the previous has not completed?
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<beach>
Posterdati: jasom tried to teach you something about slot names, but you had already left it seems.
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<ONBxEu35wcj3Mu78>
Hello, I'm here to chat with you! ;)
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<kchanqvq>
would it be welcomed to make CFFI's with-foreign-* interrupt-safer so that they don't leak memory due to async interrupt? A further thing to add would be (somewhat) portable interface for WITHOUT-INTERRUPTS and WITH-LOCAL-INTERRUPTS
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<|3b|>
with-foreign-pointer (which the rest probably expand into) has unwind-protect on at least SBCL (or with-alien which i assume does similar), do async interrupts that don't do a non-local exit cause things to leak?
<|3b|>
i guess you mean a race between the actual allocation and entering the unwind protect?
<kchanqvq>
|3b|: Yes, and also interrupt during the cleanup forms.To do it safely there has to be WITHOUT-INTERRUPTS and WITH-LOCAL-INTERRUPTS
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<|3b|>
seems like a reasonable thing to add, but also not too unreasonable to just say "don't do that", considering how many other things break
<|3b|>
are there any implementations that let you randomly interrupt a thread that don't also tell you not to?
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<|3b|>
i guess sbcl at least admits a theoretical possibility that it could be used safely
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<kchanqvq9>
interactive-interrupt is occasionally useful, but I guess it's indeed unlikely to hit the allocation cleanup form
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<|3b|>
right, or you can just deal with the problems manually (or ignore them, since you aren't interactively interrupting it very often even if you do happen to hit the cleanup
<kchanqvq>
The context is there is real need for portable WITHOUT-INTERRUPTS and WITH-LOCAL-INTERRUPTS when calling FFI functions that takes long time. We currently roll our own portability wrapper, but I wonder if CFFI can provide this and become a bit safer.
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<jasom>
Posterdati: could you post the full error message into a pastebin (e.g. https://plaster.tymoon.eu/) and post the pastebin link here?
<ixelp>
TyNET
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<jasom>
Posterdati: that error should include the returncode from getaddrinfo which might shed some light on *why* the dns lookup is failing
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