#commonlisp on 2025-08-19 — irc logs at libera.catirclogs.org

2022-07-28 16:55 jackdaniel changed the topic of #commonlisp to: Common Lisp, the #1=(programmable . #1#) programming language | Wiki: <https://www.cliki.net> | IRC Logs: <https://irclog.tymoon.eu/libera/%23commonlisp> | Cookbook: <https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook> | Pastebin: <https://plaster.tymoon.eu/>

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14:06 <Posterdati> hi

14:06 <Posterdati> please help, how can I remove | around keywords generated with alexandria:make-keyword? Thanks!

14:07 <attila_lendvai> Posterdati, that is just escape for char case. generate fully uppercase symbols and they will be gone (or adjust the case handling of the printer/reader)

14:07 <beach> Remove how?

14:08 <beach> Oh, I see now.

14:08 <Posterdati> attila_lendvai: ok

14:08 <beach> Posterdati: The symbols don't contain the | sign.

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14:09 <beach> Posterdati: That's just how the printer prints them so that they can be read back again.

14:10 <beach> ,(list (make-symbol "hello") (make-symbol "HELLO"))

14:10 <ixelp> => (#:|hello| #:HELLO)

14:10 <Posterdati> attila_lendvai: nice, thanks

14:11 <attila_lendvai> is it reasonable that ASDF does this: (register-image-dump-hook 'clear-configuration)

14:11 <attila_lendvai> i mean, it's a good default, but i don't need it now

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14:16 <attila_lendvai> ugly, but works: (setf asdf::*image-dump-hook* (remove 'asdf:clear-configuration asdf::*image-dump-hook*))

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14:24 <acdw> is there a like, non-ugly way to use MITO (orm) to query both sides of a join? I've got a pages table and a tags table, and a pages_tags table in the middle. i know the SQL to get say, the tags of a page or the pages of a tag, but i can't figure out how to do it in miti

14:25 <acdw> mito*. i might just end up doing the raw sql

14:26 <beach> acdw: I am curious, what are you using SQL for?

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14:27 <acdw> my personal website

14:28 <beach> I see.

14:28 <acdw> i can do some copy-pasting if my question's not clear

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15:28 <jackdaniel> sql practitioners discourage orms, just use sql

15:29 <acdw> ok

15:30 <acdw> (thanks btw -- that's kind of where i was heading i think. it seems like, why have another layer of indirection?)

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