<remiliascarlet>
zorz_: You mean "true Linuxers" as in "long time Linux users", or as in the woke crowd that took over Linux over the past 10 years?
<remiliascarlet>
SiFuh: "シルキーピップボーイ <-- SIlky Pip Poi Hahaha Not Big Boy" Wrong! That saw says ビッグボーイ (Big Boy), not "ピップボーイ" (Pip Boy).
<remiliascarlet>
erilun06-mobile: What are your issues? I think most people here would be using SYSLINUX instead of Grub.
<remiliascarlet>
Not sure what kind of bootloader ETC is.
<SiFuh>
remiliascarlet: 4th time actually
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<SiFuh>
ukky: https://down-my.img.susercontent.com/file/my-11134207-7r98w-lmfdl7ttvlxva2.webp I bought these. Made in Japan because all the drill bits here are just awful. I'd never heard of this brand before. So I drilled a 2mm hole into aluminium about 15mm thick and it was like drilling butter. A couple of seconds and was done.
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: should be this getenv("RUNLEVEL"); and not this getenv{"RUNLEVEL"};
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<SiFuh>
farkuhar: So yes, you are correct
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<SiFuh>
ukky: As for the UPS, it needs a new battery. I just tested it with the battery from my truck.
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<SiFuh>
ppetrov^: erilun06-mobile replied to you
<ppetrov^>
mhm
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<erilun06-mobile>
remiliascarlet:
<erilun06-mobile>
Hang around in the main #crux channel in like 7 hours and you should be able to catch me trying to solve them,
<erilun06-mobile>
I have only ever really used grub myself, so that's what I chose.
<erilun06-mobile>
I've had issues ranging from grub not finding the compiled kernel file to grub not installing correctly and mkfs.fat giving errors left and right.
<erilun06-mobile>
I might try to get things working tomorrow or Sunday if I don't get it working this afternoon (local time)
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: I had an issue the other day, but I was using a non-UEFI system. Found out that fdisk had set up my disk as GPT. So when I tried to mkfs.fat it would error out and when I did get it working, the SYSLINUX would erase the existence of the Partition Table. Heh, fun and games.
<erilun06-mobile>
SiFuh: and here I am, seriously considering just installing it on my desktop PC instead, at least the kernel would build in minutes rather than hours (although I did manage to backup the kernel I did build on the laptop).
<erilun06-mobile>
And this would be a parallel installation with arch on the side
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: I built the kernel on another machine. Then tar balled the kernel and the /lib/modules/6.12.23 and transferred it over to the CRUX install machine because compiling the full modular build will chew through the RAM and swap on the old machine. CRUX's rootfs takes a large chunk of the RAM leaving limited space for such a large build. Once I rebooted into the system, I rebuilt the kernel
<SiFuh>
without any issues.
<erilun06-mobile>
I did something similar, but I backed up the kernel I built pre 3.8, as well as large parts of /etc
<erilun06-mobile>
The annoying part is that I managed to install 3.7 and get it running, possibly using the 3.8 instructions, but I had to reinstall and now I can't get it running/booting
<erilun06-mobile>
Oh well, now I'm going afk to work
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: Would have been easier if you are using the same drive is to just boot the ISO. Mount the partitions. Make a directory called OLD and move the old CRUX into it. Then just run the install. And if you had used SYSLINUX originally, you wouldn't even need to touch the boot partition or even install SYSLINUX because it would already exist in the MBR, and all you needed to do was add a new
<SiFuh>
entry to syslinux.cfg
<erilun06-mobile>
I'll probably try to use syslinux next time I try to install
<SiFuh>
Once you SYSLINUX, you never have to touch the MBR again. Update kernel or distro? No worries. Just edit syslinux.cfg and voila, it's done.
<erilun06-mobile>
SiFuh: Sounds great
<ppetrov^>
erilun06-mobile, still problems with grub?
<ppetrov^>
if you are installing on EFI, did you start the CRUX iso in UEFI mode?
<erilun06-mobile>
I assume so, but I haven't touched the laptop since Monday afternoon, but I don't think I did something different at boot than when I managed to install 3.7
<erilun06-mobile>
Again, I'll have another look this afternoon and maybe weekend
<erilun06-mobile>
On the other hand, I've started working some on the basis of a package management tool for crux, which is part of why crux is so interesting to me personally, the minimal-ness and implicity of the existing package management tools. This tool will be (nix and) guix-inspired but written/configured in a language that I actually know and like...
<SiFuh>
minimal-ness :-P except for the rc
<erilun06-mobile>
It's still going to be easier to work with a simplistic tarball system than it is to work with arch or Debian packages
<erilun06-mobile>
My plan is to make my tool able to also manage config files and possibly some individual values
<erilun06-mobile>
For some programs
<SiFuh>
Heh arch. What a mess that distro is
<SiFuh>
Always feels dirty when I install it.
<erilun06-mobile>
As a (now) long time arch(based) user, I do agree that it's quite a mess
<erilun06-mobile>
Although it's the only distro I've used that has all(90%+) of the software that I want, easily available
<erilun06-mobile>
But I daily drive awesome-git...
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: Well they do lie and say they were inspired by CRUX, when it was clearly obvious it was based off of CRUX.
<SiFuh>
pacman is pretty cool though.
<erilun06-mobile>
I've tried and failed to find a good way to interact with pacman from lua, other than os.execute
<erilun06-mobile>
(Lua is my second favorite programming language, my favorite is based on Lua and can use Lua libraries, but with clojure/Lisp-style syntax and functionality)
<SiFuh>
My favorite language is probably Thai. But they all suck. :-P
<erilun06-mobile>
SiFuh: joker? or just not a programmer? :-)
<SiFuh>
Just a joker :-P
<erilun06-mobile>
Ah
<erilun06-mobile>
I'm autistic, bad at hearing, worse at reading, tone :-}
<SiFuh>
I'm SiFuh, bad at flapping my arms, worse at getting pregnant, man :-)
<SiFuh>
Hahaha
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: Only lua I use is in emacs and video players
<SiFuh>
Oh wait, lisp in emacs
<erilun06-mobile>
Emacs uses its own lisp dialect, but I know MPV has Lua support
<erilun06-mobile>
SiFuh: do you by chance watch the systemcrafters yt channel? He does a lot of Emacs stuff. it feels like I recognize your username from somewhere
<ppetrov^>
I am analyzing some networks in R and I am getting this crap on a random basis:
<ppetrov^>
Error: file descriptor is too large for select()
<ppetrov^>
seems it's a problem with Linux?
<ppetrov^>
any ideas
<ppetrov^>
?
<erilun06-mobile>
I've never used R
<erilun06-mobile>
I wonder if R is using C (or C++) for interacting with the system the same way that Lua does, or if it's doing something else
<dlcusa>
Does anyone here besides SiFuh remember UNIX distros in which the /sbin hierarchy contained only -static executables (hence the s for static as well as for single)? Those were for heroics recovering systems from dynamic linkage disasters. Maybe the crucial distro should adopt that approach.
<ppetrov^>
the crucial distro? that the joke I made?
<ppetrov^>
erilun06-mobile, Some libraries are written in C/C++
<dlcusa>
No, it was another name suggestion for the #crux-musl effort.
<ppetrov^>
:)
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: There was two crucial one was hyphenated and the other was not. And I think I saw a Crux-cial as well maybe.
<SiFuh>
erilun06-mobile: What can I say, I am famous :-P
<dlcusa>
But what about the distro having a functional sbin tree?
<SiFuh>
dlcusa: of course. / should be separate and anything in /bin /sbin should be 100% static.
<SiFuh>
But the modern Linux morons came in and made one single large partition and shoved everything on it. Which is just stupid
<dlcusa>
So you think both bin and sbin should be static? That eliminates the primary benefit of dynamic linkage.
<SiFuh>
I still do partitions for / /usr /usr/local /usr/X11R6 /home /var and /tmp
<SiFuh>
/usr /usr/local /usr/X11R6 can be mounted read only.
<SiFuh>
In the old days even / could be read only.
<SiFuh>
SHove that in your face big scary FSCK rc screen ;-)
<SiFuh>
I think farkuhar needs to put in a comment line '# The big scary fsck screen'
<SiFuh>
I thought it was a clever choice of words when he was talking about it
<farkuhar>
ppetrov^: Does your network analysis use file descriptors directly, or is the error message coming from how R decided to implement your code at the OS level?
<ppetrov^>
guess it comes from what R decided
<ppetrov^>
when this happens, i rstart R and it works
<SiFuh>
How about make every Malaysian do a fucking test again and erase corruption from the industry. Most foreigners can drive better than Malaysians.
<SiFuh>
I'd say close to 100% of the people I have met have never done the actual test, they just pay a fist full of cash and get the approval for a licence.
<SiFuh>
Good thing I already have an Open Malaysian Licence. :-P
<SiFuh>
Here there is no flow of traffic and one of the major causes is the lack of indicators. No one knows what anyone else is doing so they are always constantly riding the brakes.
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<erilun06-mobile>
Making another attempt at installing crux 3.8
<erilun06-mobile>
This time I've got a mascot for luck