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<inky>
xorg gets forked as xlibre
<inky>
i guess that's good news.
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<fiftydinar>
Yes, I also think it's great that it's forked. Bureaucracy of freedesktop projects usually slow things down.
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<sicelo>
gawd. this is terrible. increasing the fragmentation
<Wizzup>
I don't think I agree
<Wizzup>
I don't know if I am supposed to have faith in the person who forked it, but the x11 'maintainers' were clearly not maintaining it
<Wizzup>
this became extra clear when they started making xwayland only releaess
<Wizzup>
so they were essentially purposefully killing x11 by not making any more releases
<Wizzup>
just about any movement is better than no movement
<Wizzup>
imo
<fiftydinar>
"just about any movement is better than no movement" - I agree
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<Wizzup>
I also have a MR sitting there for years
<Wizzup>
we just carry the patches instead
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<kiva>
fiftydinar: you talked last night about running Maemo in laptop...I would say Maemo is good distribution to screens under 12" inch, not touch screen needed, mouse and keyboard i enough. Bigger screens you might want xfce to use overlapped windows...it would be fun run xfce in Maemo "window"..i dont know is that possible.
<fiftydinar>
kiva: Yes, just in process of dd-ing rn. I'll consider other solutions also.
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<fiftydinar>
Managed to boot it, it shows the top bar with Charging orange bar in full resolution, then it switches to some light blue "No messages yet" windowed screen
<fiftydinar>
I wonder if I need to edit the resolution somewhere or something else
<fiftydinar>
I can send a video & logs for better troubleshooting
<kiva>
do you see clock in top bar? with xrandr at terminal you can change resolution.
<fiftydinar>
Display renders right, then it doesn't when "No messages yet" screen shows up
<kiva>
Actually right side of clock there should button with two blue squares.
<kiva>
And that No messages yet not should came in start without touching anything.
<fiftydinar>
Hmm, yes, you're right
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<kiva>
your actual iGPU model might Intel HD Graphics 520 or 620..It should be work, but should ask some developer about that problem (I am just user).
<kiva>
try restart with HDMI-monitor connected
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<kiva>
If you have time you can try also chimaera build, because some Intel iGPU:s are picky about linux version (they work, but can be very slow or have some strange problems).
<kiva>
generic x86 32-bit Maemo Leste build with generic VESA driver would be good idea as fall back for laptops.
<kiva>
and with laptop do not that touch screen support..use up and down keys to scroll..after you learn you dont want miss it. I use that way with Pinephone.
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<kiva>
Is Leste fast in your laptop?
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<kiva>
btw..you might need to this: sudo /etc/expandcard.sh
<fiftydinar>
It's very smooth, I like it
<kiva>
to get space.
<fiftydinar>
I already expanded the storage
<inky>
hmm, interesting. i think with custom xorg.conf you should be able to make daedalus maemo working.
<inky>
it would help to see what is written in Xorg.0.log (i think now it is written in users home dir?)
<inky>
but congratulations on getting this working, i am glad you did.
<fiftydinar>
I like the layout & mobile features of Maemo Leste, I find it great for PCs also, besides it being focused for mobiles
<fiftydinar>
I'll investigate daedalus sometime later
<fiftydinar>
kiva: Good idea, I'll write the guide later
<dsc_>
fiftydinar: nice :)
<dsc_>
did you also try the latest (daedalus) ?
<fiftydinar>
dsc_: Yes, but if you look at the chat history, you can see that left side of the screen is missing for some reason & it always shows "No messages yet" screen without any way to get out of it
<sicelo>
Wizzup: what's the X11 patch?
<fiftydinar>
Cromite works well, it doesn't have GPU acceleration for video decoding, but everything else is very smooth & working.
<fiftydinar>
But even without GPU acceleration for video decoding, it plays 1080p 24fps with very few stutters
<fiftydinar>
The only thing I notice is that .desktop file needs to be placed in hildon subfolder & custom location for icon is not working, so I need to place it in "icons/scalable/apps" also for it to show in the launcher
<fiftydinar>
that's a bit non-standard, but easily solvable
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<kiva95>
If your screen is not 1080p drop videoplaying to 720p it gives big boost with iGPU.
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<kiva>
And for pdf reading with laptop might better use Evince than that what comes with Maemo.
<freemangordon>
fiftydinar: actually in launcher there is "debian" submenu
<fiftydinar>
freemangordon: That's only for Debian subfolder in the menu I believe
<fiftydinar>
Ah, I read better, yes indeed. I installed Cromite AppImage, so it's outside of Debian sources
<fiftydinar>
what I meant about subfolder is ~/.local/share/applications/hildon path, where desktop files are placed
<sicelo>
nowhere does NETWORK_MASK_EGPRS_SUPPORT ever get set to TRUE
<arno11>
ah
<sicelo>
guess now you have somewhere to start ;-)
<arno11>
i want to make mms 'working' first ;)
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<sicelo>
that's not going to be trivial btw :-)
<arno11>
indeed
<sicelo>
i think i'm halfway to a fix for the 2.5 issue already :p
<arno11>
oh cool
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<sicelo>
i'll try and make MR ... then you can test it over the next few days. deal?
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<sicelo>
i'll also give it more testing next week
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<arno11>
@test it, sure
<sicelo>
btw, we probably need to ask fmg a question as well ... freemangordon: btw how are things looking with the new connui*?
<sicelo>
i have a fix for arno's issue, but not sure if it's worth making an MR for, depending on how things are looking for what you're working on ...