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<erebion> Wizzup: Swapping out pieces? gtk2 with something newer, you mean?
<erebion> btw, do GTK2 components still get security updates? (I know nothing about GTK)
<sicelo> i believe GTK2 is not receiving any updates, security or otherwise
<Wizzup> I would be surprised if debian wouldn't add security updates to packages they ship
<Wizzup> maybe not by gnome, but others
<Wizzup> erebion: and yeah, that's what I meant
<erebion> Wizzup: What do you think? Would it make sense to combine the image generation of Mobian and Maemo Leste, just with different paths for the rootfs? Should save some work and a new supported device for Mobian would be one for Maemo Leste as well, automatically (of course will require fine tuning, but a lot of work would be saved).
<erebion> Just asked the Mobian chat (#mobian on oftc) the same thing, maybe joining forces benefits both projects
<erebion> Wizzup: Also, Mobian also has meta packages, but per SoC type, for example one for Qualcomm devices, not for every single device currently
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<erebion> Wizzup: For porting to the Pixel 3a, patches will be required. Mobian already has a device specific kernel package, perhps this could be used?
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<sicelo> i'm happy to see that i was wrong indeed - that gtk2 is seeing some activity in debian - https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/gtk+2.0
<erebion> Wizzup: Also, if you get it running with virt-manager, please do let me know
<erebion> sicelo: Neat, thanks for letting me know. That means I could actually try Maemo Leste as a daily driver. :D
<erebion> (once I acquire a phone that runs it or port it myself to one I have)
<erebion> Currently the only thing requiring me to have an Android phone in addition to a Mobian phone is the alarm clock
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<sicelo> arno11: btw, with the IM protocols we currently support, do any report friend's status?
<sicelo> was just looking at some old Fremantle applications, and saw http://maemo.org/downloads/product/Maemo5/friendstatus/ ... might be worth porting over if we do support retrieving friend status
<arno11> by status, you mean 'online' 'away' etc ?
<sicelo> that and the status text/message
* sicelo is a bit worried though - seems the source files are no longer downloadable, at least from maemo.org
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<arno11> i can't open any link on maemo.org atm btw
<sicelo> try with HTTP
<arno11> ok
<sicelo> or you mean you cant't open the one i pasted?
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<arno11> that's ok with http :)
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<arno11> online status already works in addressbook for tg, fb, chatgpt (and xmpp i guess)
<arno11> was also working with skype iirc
<sicelo> anyway, looks like that application has a problem - it needs to be kept running. of course an interested soul could separate it into daemon and gui parts :-)
<arno11> yep
* sicelo is making a list of applications he would like to look at porting, if the source can be found somehow
<arno11> cool
<dsc_> conversations also supports online status
<arno11> yes ofc :)
<dsc_> (some things to improve still in that area)
<arno11> i.e it is a big long to show someone going offline
<erebion> Dino does not (yet?) but works well on a Mobian phone, might also work well on Maemo ;-)
<erebion> It even supports calls and video calls, which is neat
<erebion> I do that occasionally from Mobian and ist just works
<arno11> cool, but remember, we still use gtk2 here so dino works with some gui issues iirc
<erebion> sicelo: perhaps c:geo would be interesting, I still haven't found any geocaching application for mobile Linux
<erebion> arno11: Of what sort? I haven't yet tried Maemo Leste myself.
<arno11> dino works with gtk3/4 and causes some display troubles on maemo iirc
<arno11> but it works
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<erebion> Is Hildon what Ubuntu used for their netbook remix?
<arno11> idk but it was compilable for ubuntu (for sure)
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<sicelo> erebion: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR ? doesn't look like it could be related to Hildon
<erebion> Then I've probably never had the pleasure to try it :D
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<Wizzup> erebion: will let you know @ virt-manager
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<inky> erebion, dino works well, aside of being a power hungry and slow. (:
<Wizzup> dino on its own will probably OOM on the n900 and d4 families
<inky> under chimaera it works on d4, under daedalus don't know.
* inky afraids to upgrade and loose wifi hotspots and configs.
<Wizzup> erebion: I like the idea of combining image generation if possible
<inky> so was upgrade possible via apt?
<Wizzup> erebion: regarding the kernel tree, that is helpful, we can package that as a separate kernel package
<Wizzup> erebion: do you know what defconfig is used for the pixel 3a?
<Wizzup> sicelo: I had made a list of porting candidates on the wiki at some point I think
<Wizzup> doesn't seem like that it is
<Wizzup> is it*
<erebion> > erebion: do you know what defconfig is used for the pixel 3a?
<erebion> btw, any ideas where I can buy an N9 in Europe? (Avoiding customs)
<erebion> I can find some offers on ebay from China for "refurbished" devices of unknown quality for ~50 euros, but then customs will want me to pay import fees
<erebion> (and N900 and N950)
<Wizzup> thanks @ config
<Wizzup> erebion: hm... not sure @ n9, I'd probably check ebay if there's any
<Wizzup> for 50 euros at least the import won't be too much
<erebion> Yes, but I'm not sure what the customs process entails
<erebion> I'd probably rather pay slightly more to not have to worry about customs, simply by buying within the customs union
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<Wizzup> erebion: right
<Wizzup> I have only one here
<Wizzup> signing off for today :)
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